Webroot Spy Sweeper Installing Malware??

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  1. Fly

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  2. emperordarius

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    Alright but security programs should never ever install third party software which are detected by other security softwares, except their own toolbars which may be used for additional protection(like symantec does). It's just stupid, how can an anti spyware install spyware?Aren't rouges supposed to do that?:thumbd:
     
  3. Fly

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    You're using SAS.

    Are you sure it doesn't spy on you in any way ?
     
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    I'm pretty sure it doesn't install spyware on my computer, and it doesn't send any info to other companies.
     
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    First of all, for me it doesn't matter now if it's a real trojan, or spyware or adware, virus etc.:

    I downloaded the file : SpySweeperSNRSetup_EN.exe from webroot site and when you start to install, it immediatly try to atcivate askBarSetup.exe SILENTLY that means it doesnt give you the option or any kind of warning/conditions/info before or during install. In my case Bullguard stopped it twice ( At the beginning and at the end of installation)
    SpySweeperSNRSetup_EN.exe try to install askBarSetup even before SpySweeper program or they
    are integrated

    Zone-Alarm like many other programs shows you the option before or during installation.

    It also doesn't matter how easy or difficult you can
    delete this crap adwares afterwords. A Security software should not function like this....money,money,moneyo_O I hope it backfires on webroot and they bankrupt!!
    Shame on them.

    Cheers

     
  6. doktornotor

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    That's NOT true... See screenshot. And note that you have to use custom install. And there's no askBarSetup.exe running unless you forget to uncheck this component.
     

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    The reason it's detected by other software is because as of yet, not every company uses the toolbar/ad method of making extra cash, especially the paid software, they already have a good flow coming in (not that they against it wholeheartedly, just that they don't see a need to utilize it ). Each company has a different policy, and free vendors are more likely to use this tactic. Even if such add-ons are NOT used, you still have to understand that these companies in all likelihood share your information with other companies, it's just the way things work in the online world.
     
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    Ok, let's accept free programs, but Spy Sweeper isn't free, and doesn't seem like a poor little uknown company which needs money.
     
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    As I said, each company has a different policy. I didn't mean to imply that NO paid vendor would use this, just that it isn't absolutely necessary (provided they are already successful of course). :)
     
  10. beto_nl

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    LOL! Are working for webroot? Or...am i working against
    webroot??o_O
    The screenshot I first posted was at the end of the installation.
    Now I,m placing the first screenshot and pay attention to the word welcome

    Anyway for anyone that wants to try... don't take my or
    doctor's word for it, download and install this from webroot site:
    ht tp://www.webroot.com/shoppingcart/tryme.php?bjpc=64021&vcode=DT02A
    And the file is as I already said SpySweeperSNRSetup_EN.exe and see what happens!

    How old is your file anyway??
     

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  11. Fly

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    That's what you hope. Can you be sure ? ;)
     
  12. beto_nl

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    What a wonderfull world...Security software installing
    spyware, anti-virus companies spreading virusses, evrybody
    suspicious about windows defender...Firewall leaking...
    What about spybot? Any comments?

    What's the solution? Moving to Apple Macintosh? Maybe they are BEHIND all this :argh: :argh: :argh:
     
  13. emperordarius

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    99% using my heuristics:D
     
  14. beto_nl

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    I wonder why the specific link was edited
    by moderator..
    Anyway the file can be downloaded at the download
    page of webroot SEE SCREENSHOT (new version 5.5)

    But if you already believe me that the file
    will try to silently install the askBar
    don't waste your time downloading it.
    Bullguard, Bitdefender and Nod32 will
    stop silent installation of askBarSetup
    but other programs, I dont know.

    Like Hurst and Emperordarius ( thank's for the tips)
    already mentioned, SuperAntiSpyware and/or Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware work fine.

    And thank's evrybody for the input
    Greetz
    beto_nl
     

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    No, I'm not...

    Looks like that...

    Yeah, so what?

    Huh yeah, I wonder what I've been doing to get that screenshot... Lots of Photoshop work, I guess? :rolleyes:

    Downloaded about 10 minutes before posting my screenshot, any more clever questions?

    You need to run CUSTOM install to get rid of the toolbar. No toolbar will be installed if you uncheck the box, and no such process will be running... If you are unable to do it, ask someone more advanced in installing programs before posting more false claims... TIA.

    P.S. I don't defend any toolbars, I hate them... Read my posts @ Comodo forums about this. But you need to stop posting plain unsubstantiated accusations here.
     
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    What's up Doc?

    Lol...I must be tripping... didnt expect that much fun over here.

    First of all you need to chill, there were no accusations, I was just joking of course.

    Secondly, anyone else here that did download the
    LAST version of Spy Sweeper (5.5) from the same location I did ( see screenshot from my last message) will verify
    that THERE IS NO BOX TO UNCHECK because the screenshot you placed here,i dont get during my install
    Otherwise I woudn't even start this thread Of COURSE.
    Or do you think that first i leave the box unchecked so
    Bullguard can get all wound up? Get a grip man!

    And about what you call advanced install, i am a very advanced box unchecker, i live for it and
    when I dont get a box to uncheck I get even more wound up than Bullguard...and then i go to forums:D

    So grow up and admit that your screenshot is from an installation of an older version of Spy Sweeper:p
     
  17. doktornotor

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    ROTFLMAO, yeah thanks for confirming once again what I've said. Go get someone who is able to run CUSTOM install for you. (Hint: Clicking Next - Next - Next - Next... will NOT get you there.)

    What a waste of time... :mad: :rolleyes:
     
  18. doktornotor

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    Howto NOT install Ask.com toolbar w/ Spy Sweeper for dummies:

    1/ Check you've downloaded the latest and greatest
    2/ Run it, important!
    3/ Welcome! - see Screen01
    4/ Next
    5/ Next
    6/ No thanks, no updates at this time. - see Screen02
    7/ Next
    8/ Wheee, license! - see Screen03
    9/ Next
    10/ The "non-existant" Custom installation, WOW! - see Screen04
    11/ Next
    12/ Next
    13/ Next
    14/ Fill in email address
    15/ Next
    16/ Next
    17/ Oh noes, the "non-existant" toolbar checkbox and EULA!!! Wheeeeeeeee! UNCHECK IT!!! - see Screen05
    18/ Next.....

    Zzzzzzzzz.... finish the install, without any toolbar!
     

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    ( EDITED)
    I am not religious but ..for god sakes man!!
    Is that your hobby, making a fool of yourself?
    I can customize anything i want when it's visible!

    I dont even get to press the FIRST NEXT button!!!
    When I open the setup file, askBarSetup.exe already took
    the path:C:\Users\Beto\Appdata\Local\Temp\is99VM2.tmp
    and gets deleted by Bullguard

    Have a look on the screenshot again, Bullguard deletes
    askBarSetup.exe before I can hit the VERY first next button.

    EDITED: I never use typical installation; I always use custom so
    I can decide if a program starts with windows etc. etc.
    I CHOSE CUSTOM installation, BUT, I dont get the Free
    Webroot Tool Bar screen that probably is deleted or blocked
    by Bullguard.
    Now if the file installed in your machine the generates the install
    screen of ask bar AND installs it AND winds up some AV programs,
    it's a false positive that's another question
    For the moment I choose for not using Spy Sweeper
     
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    Oh really?! :eek: :rolleyes: You never heard that a software needs to get unpacked to %TEMP% before install apparently, have you? That doesn't mean that it INSTALLS MALWARE! - see proof above. Get a clue, seriously. Enough time wasted here.

    :thumbd: :argh:
     
  21. HURST

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    folks please! there is no reason to not be civilized and there is certainly no reason to fight each other...

    @beto:
    I'm glad you found SAS and MBAM usefull :thumb:
     
  22. beto_nl

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    Yep enough time wasted I edited my last message

    A hot shot like you could come up with the possibility that
    Bullguard deletes the whole askbar install screen
    from custom or typical install
     
  23. beto_nl

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    LOl we are being civilized and begining to cool down
    It's all fun

    My tip for you: Hold on windows XP for a While..I see you still have it and i miss it a little...

    Cheers
     
  24. doktornotor

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    Yeah, it's definitely a world-wide conspiracy to invade your precious box with nasty malware. :D

    N.B. you previous post where you claim that

    Wow, that's sooo consistent. Either your antivirus sucks and fails to even delete the thing properly... or you are unable to operate the antivirus. Not my problem.

    Either way, noone's cramming Spy Sweeper down your throat, you are free to NOT install it, together with other hundreds of apps that bundle the same toolbar and that will produce exact same thing on your box. Have a nice day.
     
  25. ejames82

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    i used spy sweeper for two years. i started using it when it had a fabulous reputation. it was always "finicky", but once i became used to the programme, i turned it into an on-demand scanner, and it became a major asset in my arcenal. it was a great scanner.
    something happened to them right about the time they treamed up with sophos. i didn't have sophos, just SS, and every time i manually updated, a window blocked me so i would have to see their ad trying to sell me their AV. i know how to buy an AV, if i want one. i don't appreciate them trying to get more money out of me, when i legitimately purchased their product and just want to use it unimpeded.
    right about this time the"kim komando show" quit sponsoring spy sweeper.
    spy sweeper wanted to own your machine. they became sleezy nags.
    after i allowed my subscription to expire, they constantly emailed me to resubscribe, until i changed may email address.

    the ask toolbar is bad news whether it's adware or spyware (i do believe it's spyware). the newbie customer shouldn't be worried about spyware being installed on their computer by an antispyware programme. shame on any antimalware programme that could in any way install ask toolbar, opt-in or opt-out. installing this toolbar is hypocritical. you pay them to protect you from being spyed on, and they install a toolbar that spys on you.
    for the people who have suggested "just don't use it any more". that is exactly what action i have taken, and i seriously doubt superantispyware does anything underhanded, or we would have heard about it by now.
    let this be a lesson for all the companies that have stayed on the "up and up". there are people who pay attention to this and it will pay off sooner or later.
     
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