Oracle/Google settlement talks fail, Java patent trial to start April 16

Absurd. They don't pay all the time. Otherwise, anyone would make a company just to claim some violation to Google, and get paid. Basically, this is the implication of what you're saying.

Not for Oracle.

 

And this actually does happen very very often. I'm not going to Google legal cases for something so commonplace. Look up some McDonalds cases where people sue them for being fat or some other ridiculous case that could have been dragged out in court but they settled because it's the cheapest and simplest solution. This happens all the time.

Settlement does not mean admission of guilt. It means you're willing to shut them up with money so you can move on.

Obviously. Like I said.

 

Stop the nonsense. If this was so commonplace, companies wouldn't survive. There are some bizarre cases yes.

 

Seriously? You don't know this?

This is very commonplace. You're talking about multibillion dollar companies, they do just fine despite the occasional case brought against them.

 

Now you talk about occasional case. If companies paid settlements all the time (as you said), the cases wouldn't be occasional.

 

Do you have any idea how you sound like?

He obviously means it happens all the time, not that it happens everyday for any one company. Holly s... man!

And Google has presented as evidence quotes from the former Sun CEO stating how cool it was that Google was doing what they did. It may not hold, but if you could just read more about the case to see that this is not a simple affair.

 

Especially so if the settlement payouts were for $1 billion or even more.

 

Did you actually think that I meant no cases ever go to court and they're always settled? I said it happens "all the time" ie: very often.

They're often very large settlements but naturally not in the order of billions. If you're dealing with a person saying "Hey, McD's you made me fat" you can probably pay them off with hundreds of thousands or millions. A large company's gonna take billions.

Like I said before, settlements are very common.

EDIT: Here PeterPan,

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=microsoft settles

Look at how "guilty" Microsoft is!

 

That's the judge trying the case!

 

http://asia.cnet.com/android-doesnt-infringe-oracles-patents-says-jury-62215663.htm

My life is so pathetic that that ^^^ is the best news I've read in a while.

 

Judge:

More at groklaw.net

 

Interview with the jury foreman.

 

Inquiring minds want to know, you - vasa1- use Android?

 

"Oracle presented overwhelming evidence at trial that Google knew it would fragment and damage Java," Oracle spokeswoman Deborah Hellinger told Bloomberg in an e-mailed statement. "We plan to continue to defend and uphold Java's core write once run anywhere principle and ensure it is protected for the nine million Java developers and the community that depend on Java compatibility."

 

And from a highly repected blogger:
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, ZDNet, "Google kicks Oracle in its patent teeth"

 

Translation of vasa1 post? highly "repected" blogger = money grabber troll?

 

No doubt the other side will bring out their expert, Florian Mueller.

 

Interesting indeed. http://www.fosspatents.com/

 

This is so true lol

 

Apparently, the jury was useless!

http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/05/jury-doesnt-find-google-to-infringe-two.html

That guy's not going to get his bonus!

 

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/may/24/google-oracle-patents-victory?newsfeed=true

 

Lol, yeah, hypocrisy masters!

To dispute infringement of Oracle's patents, Google contradicts its own source code comments and file names

 

Can I just say that I find it hilarious that anyone is supporting this. I've literally not yet seen one programmer/ savvy person agree.

edit: Hilarious but a bit sad.

 

From that link:
"...Even though Google has raised multiple issues with respect to the Gosling patent, none of its arguments makes sense to me (I've done a fair amount of programming and authored books on programming techniques and operating systems)..."