Failed UEFI restores to a new HD

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Brian K, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

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    I know how to fix the non booting DS restore. More later but a hint....

    BIOS parameter block
     
  2. Atari800xl

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    Nice, Brian. Good idea to split the solution into two parts: (1) The announcement, (2) The actual fix. Makes reading this thread even more exciting ;)

    ...only kidding, of course. But the part about the great thread is 100% true!! Like I said, all the info I tried to get on my MDL thread, is now appearing right here on WSF!! Thanks again for all your tests!
     
  3. Brian K

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    I needed to do more tests. This works every time but is totally impractical for "everyday use".

    Restore the images to the new, empty HD using Drive Snapshot.

    Boot an Image for Linux UFD in UEFI mode and not MBR mode. BootIt Bare Metal doesn't work because it doesn't boot in UEFI mode.

    Close the IFL GUI
    Click Partition Work.
    Right click the Recovery partition and click Properties. You will see "Invalid Head and SPT values in the BPB. Fix it?" Click Yes. OK.
    Right click the EFI partition and click Properties. You will see "Invalid Head and SPT values in the BPB. Fix it?" Click Yes. OK.
    Right click the Win8 partition and click Properties. You will see "Invalid Head and SPT values in the BPB. Fix it?" Click Yes. OK.

    Restart. Win8.1 boots normally.
     
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  4. andylau

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    Brian,

    Is that the trial version of IFL can also use Partition Work?
    Just know IFL contains Partition Work:rolleyes:, will TeraByte plan to develop an EFI and Wondows versions of BootIt Bare Metal/Partition Work?
     
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    Hey Brian,

    As you may recall I'm a licensed user of DS and the Terabyte Trio. Although my current PCs are MBR I find this interesting because my daughter recently bought a new GPT notebook. I'm confused by your statement "Boot an Image for Linux UFD in UEFI mode and not MBR mode". Where is that option/selection when booting IFL? :confused:

    Cruise
     
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    Andy, you need to have a BIBM license (key) in order to activate Partition Work within IFL.
     
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    Cruise, I don't think it's an option, I think Brian is setting the BiOS to the mode he wants to BOOT into... either Legacy/MBR or UEFI.
     
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    Ah, that just may be what he meant (I didn't think IFL had any such option).
     
  9. oliverjia

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    Yes it does have the boot option of booting into UEFI secure boot compatible mode, or BIOS mode, if you you've got a UEFI GPT computer. When you hit F12 (or other key to bring up the boot menu), you'll see two entries of the IFL boot USB: "Boot USB"; "UEFI: Boot USB". You want to choose "UEFI: Boot USB" entry to boot into.
     
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    Thanks for the tip!
     
  11. Brian K

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    Andy,

    The trial version of IFL has a cut down Partition Work. I haven't looked at it lately.

    TeraByte has made no announcement about BIBM supporting UEFI. It's something I'd buy immediately.

    Edit.. My wife's tablet is 32-bit UEFI Win8 and doesn't boot any MBR devices. I used TeraByte's TBOSDT on a UEFI WinPE to change her partitions.

    Edit.. Her Atom processor doesn't support Linux booting so I couldn't boot IFL.
     
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  12. Brian K

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    My Boot Menu has both booting options as oliverjia indicated. Earlier UEFI firmware required you to edit the "BIOS" prior to a UEFI or MBR boot. If you disable the Compatibility Support Module (CSM) you don't see the MBR choices in the Boot Menu. I leave it Enabled.
     
  13. Brian K

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    My DS fix was just good luck. If you boot IFL in MBR mode you don't see "Invalid Head and SPT values in the BPB. Fix it?"
     
  14. oliverjia

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    I used BIBM that is bundled in IFL boot USB to recovery all 4 GPT partitions on a UEFI computer. BIBM was the only one successfully recovered all 4 partitions. All other PMs such as Minitool, AOMEI, Paragon, EASEUS, ACRONIS failed.
    During the creation of IFL boot USB/ISO, you will be given the choice to enter bibm serial number. After which you'll have a boot USB that has both IFL and BIBM.

    IMO both IFL/IFW and BIBM are essential for any serious computer geeks. When they release V3 of IFW/IFL, I plan to buy the "speical pricing bundle" which includes all 6 of Terabyte products, but only cost a mere $50. It's a steal as compared to some other imaging apps that alone will cost you more.
     
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    I bought my first V2 bundle in December 2007, for $50. There have been almost 100 upgrades since then and the upgrade costs are zero. That's the way to create loyalty if the product is good.
     
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    True... but it may also create a big hole in your bank account. Unless word of mouth and referrals are driving business sky high, I'm not sure this model will work in the long run... although TB has been around for quite a while at v2.
     
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    I agree. I don't understand the business model.

    Edit... The first BootIt was in 1995.
     
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    Got it, thanks!

    Maybe it is because of secure boot.

    TeraByte's TBOSDT is script-based, not user-friendly, advanced users may like it:D
     
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    OK, to summarize. We've seen a few apps that fail the test using a standard restore method. But can we make the non booting OS boot? We will see posts from members who have experienced a failed restore with UEFI Win8.1 We can forget about telling them to restore the First Track as they won't have it backed up.

    AX64... I've no idea. Probably can't help.

    Clonezilla... It won't even restore the image so no help can be given.

    Drive Snapshot... See the posts on using IFL to fix it.

    AOMEI Backupper... Boot into the AOMEI restore environment again
    .. Open a Command Prompt from the menu
    .. diskpart
    .. list disk
    .. select disk x (x being the number of the HD containing the restored partitions)
    .. clean
    .. convert gpt
    .. restart the computer and boot into the AOMEI restore environment again
    .. restore the disk image (not a System image)
     
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    ...and aren't they still on v1.x with BootIt? In 20-yrs, who are they selling new licenses to these days?
     
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    You can backup your First Tracks automatically (in Windows) if you wish (scripted with TBOSDT)...

    copy sectors 0 0 63 HD0.bin
    copy sectors 1 0 63 HD1.bin
    copy sectors 2 0 63 HD2.bin
    copy sectors 3 0 63 HD3.bin

    The backups can be restored from TBOS or BIBM.
     
  23. sm1

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    @Brian K I am not technically well versed in backup software. Once I formatted my hard disk and cleaned its first tracks using a tool that was bundled with parted magic. After that I tried to restore a O&O image but was unable to do so. Do I need to create a partition in Hard disk before attempting the restore? The O&O backup contains image of system partition only. It was a MBR drive. But acronis restore worked perfectly. It restored a bootable system partition and marked the rest of the space as unformatted.
     
  24. Brian K

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    sm1,

    I haven't used O&O enough to know how it behaves with a blank HD. By blank I mean drives with no MBR and First Track.

    The Ghosts (9 through 15) won't work with blank drives unless the drive is Initialized. That is, boot code and a disk Signature is written to LBA-0. Then you can restore images to Unallocated Free Space.

    Drive Snapshot requires partitions on the drive before you can restore images. You can create these partitions manually or let Drive Snapshot "Restore Partition Structure".

    The TeraByte Unlimited apps are at the other end of the spectrum. They will restore partition or Entire Drive images to a blank drive or Unallocated Free Space between partitions. If a MBR isn't present at restore time, one will be created automatically.
     
  25. sm1

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    Thanks Brian K:) I have O&O version 7.8. I tried it. To choose MSR partition I had to select the entire disk including the data partition D. If I chose the first 4 partitions for some reason MSR would be deselected and option to select it was greyed out:( I don't want the data partition in my backup image but I want the MSR and all other partitions which is not possible using O&O. Back to Macrium for now.
     
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