AppDefend v1.000 Public Beta

Some ppl like this, others like that... If you have to content everybody, especially if there's no tangible argument beyond "I don't like it that's all", I suppose you must spend your life tweaking cosmetic things.

-RE

 

Hi all,
how about having a poll then, at least we have some data how many like or dislike.

 

Yeah why not.

-RE

 

F-Prot doesn't allow you to exempt specific files from scanning which can cause problems with software that continually writes to logfiles (e.g. firewalls and process protection software like PG/AD). The kicker here is that the CPU utilisation occurs via a file-access hook so gets charged to the application concerned rather than the anti-virus scanner.

If CPU utilisation is a problem for you then maybe going back to NOD32 and configuring more exceptions would be a better solution (SysInternals' FileMon utility is great for identifying frequently-accessed files).

 

Good point.

 

Agreed P2K, this is my method in maximizing my resource consumption........... A correctly configured machine.

 

Between the 2 GSS processes, it uses approx 15.5 MB which seems a bit excessive to me. This is after the system has been left running for approx 2 hours and is the same as when the system first started. This is also with both RD and AD disabled. Is this normal ?

EDIT: First mem column is Mem Usage, second is Peak Mem Usage and third is VM Size.

 

Hi Defenestration,

The processes in your screenshot are not related to GSS. You should be seeing only one GSS process: gss.exe. The screenshot below is typical of how GSS performs on my four XP systems. The screenshot was taken after 60 hours uptime.

Nick

 

Indeed, the twin avp.exe's are Kaspersky - KAV2006 I'd guess.

 

Oops! I took the screenshot of the wrong process (KIS2006).

However, GSS definitely has 2 gss.exe processes on my system, and they both disappear when I exit GSS. I believe the two processes help with self-protection.

That said, my original comment stands about mem usage of the gss.exe processes. While it's now gone down to about 6.5MB, it stayed at around 15.5MB (as shown by Peak Mem usage) for quite a while.

Is this normal ?

 

You ever look at other security apps? Mcafee VS is using over 30 megs as i type this and spysweeper over 25. 15 megs is nothing. I bet IE is using over 40 for you right now...assuming you are using IE. Firefox probably even more.

 

I have tested quite a few different security apps and dislike SpySweeper and CounterSpy 1.5 because they are big time memory hogs (near 50 megs for SS, and approx. 60 for CS on my system). This is poorly programmed software and I don't use it.

I have been impressed with TrojanHunter since the Guard only uses approx. 6 MB. KIS 2006 is usually pretty good to and tends to settle at around 8-10MB.

I don't use IE, instead preferring Firefox, and while it is a bit of a memory hog I don't have to run it all the time. Also, a browser has to display lots of images and do layout of pages. I expect anything that has to be permanently running to be very efficient.

Since GSS prides itself on low resource use, I would've expected memory usage to be lower than this.

 

Defenestration, Peak memory usage does not mean a lot as you can see the basic memory usage of GSS are relatively low, the smaller processe shown is just GSS.exe's self protection BTW.

Looking at how much CPU GSS uses over time will give you a better indication of how light GSS really is.

HTH Pilli

 

Will this also include protection against all APT kill methods? I tested APT with Firefox 1.5, and AD was not able to protect against kill 6-8.

Aside from that: Excellent application!

 

APT 6 & 7 are related to windows close messages which are not currently protected by the beta.

I do not know when Jason will implement those protections but I am sure he will get round to it

Pilli

 

Another possibility could be the GUI being one and the engine being the other.

I'm hoping that the engine will become a service in the near future, with the GUI being a startup entry. With the Engine running as a service we should see it getting loaded well before other startup entry process.

 

Hi Jason,
Do you yet have any idea when AppDefend is likely to come out of Beta ?

 

Hi James,

A few weeks is the best estimate I can give at this stage. Whilst the BETA is stable, there are some needed features still missing from it.

 

won't install, any suggestions?

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1284/what5xq.jpg

 

Make sure you have uninstalled RegDefend prior to installing the beta. Also make sure any other security software is disabled when installing.

 

I already did - now closed all security apps. No, it won't install.

 

I chose "ignore" and it seem to be working.............

 

Being unable to set that value means there is security software blocking it. Since RegDefend blocks that area it is a common thing to happen if you haven't uninstalled RegDefend.

It should still work ok after a reboot even with that message in most cases anyhow.

 

Hi Jason,

I am mixed, right now I have Ghost Security Suite V1.010 installed. If I want to try AppDefend, do I have to remove GSS first?

Thanks