Independent Restore Imaging

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by n8chavez, Jan 30, 2010.

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  1. n8chavez

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    The HAL.dll file on my x64 system is also 257 kb.... I think.

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  2. Brian K

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    Can others report on their hal.dll size in Win7 64 bit?
     
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    n8,

    This saves you a few seconds. In your flash drive "win" folder, create two text documents. Save one as tool1.bat and the other as tool2.run (no .txt extensions)

    tool1.bat contains

    tbosdtw tool2.run


    tool2.run contains

    runtbs osdtool.tbs

    Just double click tool1.bat and the tool opens.
     
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  4. Brian K

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    n8,

    When you run the tool with a Win7 OS one of the choices is ..

    Install default IDE and AHCI drivers

    Interesting. I wonder whether this means you can get away without providing specific drivers. I just ran this choice with my test computer and the computer still boots. I guess as expected.
     
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    n8chavez,

    I did some tests with different hardware.

    Dell SATA HD computer to Gateway IDE HD computer. (desktops)

    Asus SATA HD netbook to Gateway IDE HD computer.

    In both cases, all I needed to do to make the Gateway computer boot from the restored OS was to change the HAL from halmacpi.dll to halacpi.dll. IDE drivers were not needed.
     
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    I have another question Brian. All I ever intend to use from this moment on is Windows 7. That's not to say that I won't eventually use Windows 8 when it is released, but I won't use Vista or XP anymore. I also cannot see myself using 32-bit systems anymore. That being said, what HALs do I need to concern myself with? Which ones (files) do I need to have a copy of when I use TBOSDT? I have my windows 7 hal.dll.

    Also, what driver pack do youy recommend I grab? (See here)
     
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    n8,

    I have no experience restoring Win7 OS to different hardware and I don't know how many Win7 HALs are available.

    Win7 has native SATA support so it may not need driver packs for booting.
     
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    n8,

    I now have Win7 experience. I restored an image from a 2 year old SATA HD Dell 9150 to an 8 year old IDE HD Gateway desktop. It was a network restore using IFL. Win7 just started up as if it had always been there. It automatically installed drivers for new hardware. I did nothing special after restoring the image.
     
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    Brian, does Win7 seem to run okay on that 8 yr old Gateway? - If so, what CPU and how much RAM does it have?
     
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    Aaron,

    Good question. I've run several of the beta Win7 OS on the Gateway in the last year. I haven't installed much software and it runs slowly but quite adequate for my testing purposes. It has a Windows Experience Index of 1.0.

    Processor 1.7
    RAM 2.0
    Graphics 1.0
    Gaming 1.0
    Primary HD 5.0

    Pentium 4 processor 1.3 GHz
    RD-RAM 384 MB
    Video card 32 MB
    HD 40 GB

    I was surprised it worked at all.
     
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    Surprise is puting it mildly - Win7 isn't even supposed to run at all on that platform! :eek:
     
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    hi
    good article
    may i ask few questions?
    is M.I.R. a program?

    does really ShadowProtect forces the user to have it's product installed on the drive in order to use H.I.R?

    i mean i use always the recovery cd
    can i restore an image to a different pc(different hardware) without shadow protect installed on this pc,can't i?
    this is very bad if true


    does paragon do it? in the same example

    i bought shadow protect and some years ago true image 9

    thanks
     
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    There are several different terms that can be used to describe what M.I.R. means, that's an O&O Disk Image specific term. It means the ability to restore hard drive images to different hardware than when the image was originally created. ShadowProtect refers to this as H.I.R. As has been discussed in this thread, there is a way to get M.I.R. technology independent from a specific imaging application.

    Yes, that is true. Users must have ShadowProtect installed and activated within the image that is intended to be restored in order to use the H.I.R. feature.

    Please read the explanation above.

    Yes, there are version of Paragon software that do this. Namely, is called Drive Backup 10 Professional. With Paragon Software that ability s referred to as "Adaptive Restore".


    I hope that helps.
     
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    thanks

    thanks very kind
    in short i have to make the image online , with the program running under xp
    after i can restore with the recory cd on a different pc(different hardware) ,can't it?


    has Backup 10 Professional the H.I.R included , or should i buy like an add-on ?

    thanks really
     
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    Re: thanks

    Yes, I believe you are correct.


    I do not believe there are addons for Paragon Drive Image 10. Adaptive Restore does come with the newest professional version.
     
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    thanks again

    i want to be sure , because i will buy it , if i can use the recovery cd to make an image with H.i.R feature on
     
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    Hard Disk Manager 2010 Professional

    sadly Hard Disk Manager 2010 Professional does not include Adaptive Restore :cautious:
     
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    Re: Hard Disk Manager 2010 Professional

    No it does not. In post #89 I told you that "H.I.R." was available only in Paragon Drive Image 10 Professional.
     
  20. mantra

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    :(

    yes
    but not in the recory cd (linux based)
    but in the bart cd :(

    by the way i'm angry storagecraft
    1) i can restore an image to a more small partition (i read on the forum) " but in the manual there is not mention "
    2) i have to use the program under xp to make an image,i like to use more the cd
     
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    Re: Hard Disk Manager 2010 Professional

    From manual_hdm2010pro_eng.pdf

    "Adaptive Restore to successfully migrate a Win2K+ physical system to a different hardware platform (P2P) by allowing automatic injection of all required drivers and the other actions crucial for a migration of this kind."
     
  22. mantra

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    only in the bart cd

    yes but again only in the bart cd
     
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    but does macrium reflect has a Independent Restore Imaging ?
     
  24. mantra

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    should i make a bart's cd with O&O to have Machine Independent Restore,or is enough the recovery cd made inside O&O


    thanks
     
  25. samy

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    a good 'tutorial' thread for imaging.

    I would like to ask for few clarifications.
    1. Post 32
    I understand from the above, that if a HD need to be replaced due to failure, then a 'regular restore' (i.e. an existing image of the OS w/o SP installed) will do the job
    (may I add even on a different brand SATA HD?).

    2. Post 62
    Is this statement in contradiction with the one mentioned in step 1 above?

    3. Post 62
    If the reconfiguration is on a new hardware including a new HD , how SP can be installed on the 'target' volume?
    Is it confusing with post 23,24
    and post 26
     
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